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  1. Meh, I don't feel like posting a long response. So I'll just throw data at you now . And, to clear it up, I actually do have some knowledge on this subject. I've done my fair share of reading up on taxes and the economy . This one talks about the Bush Tax cuts, however basic tax cut principles are found here: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/bg2001.cfm And this one lays out the beautiful supply-side economic model: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=1120&full=1 You can find some graphs showing economic growth in more than just a short term. Also, hopefully you haven't discredited the Laffer Curve. That's basically the foundation of my arguments, at least when dealing with tax revenues.
  2. Ahh, I dunno if I would say sucked... There were a few places where she messed up, and I could see that she was a little hoarse, but it wasn't terrible. I think she did well actually, minus the voice cracking at a few parts. I still think her very first performance of decode was incredible. Youtube that one. Oh well, she has a month break. then we shall see in 12/12
  3. Tax cuts in previous administrations have lead us out of economic downfalls. It makes sense to then assume that, if tax cuts help to lower unemployment, tax increases will thus lend to increase in unemployment If you go with the notion that unemployment is just cyclical, then I suppose that statement doesn't really help my argument, though. It's strikingly interesting to me though that, when taxes were massively lifted before in history, unemployment decreased. And if I may go so far, when taxes were imposed, such as in FDR's New Deal, unemployment soared. I'm not so sure if the two are related in FDR's case, but I cannot believe that tax manipulation has no correlation between unemployment, business incentive, and such of the same. Bottom line though, in our present scenario, tax increases make no sense. But that just brings us to our original debate. But my view on taxes are not purely economical; I tend to look at taxes politically as well. As in, taxes are another way for the government to get into my life and say how my earned money will be spent (10 dollars an hour man!) There are appropriate roles of the government, but it's healthy to be skeptical towards any new tax, tax increase, or regulation. *EDIT: Wait, and regarding your Iraq comment, I believe we do have allies fighting with us. Granted, they are not in large numbers, but it is our war. But whatever, I'm not foreign policy buff. I stick to domestic issues =\
  4. @_@ sorry, it seemed like the posts were recent enough to respond to. Didn't mean to bring back a thread that people wanted gone . But thanks though .
  5. Noice, a political thread . Just the thing I need to waste my time x]. Anyhoo.. guess I'll post a retort in a similar fashion 1. I would argue that military experience is quite valid when considering one for the presidency. After all, we are electing sed person as, first and foremost, the Commander in Chief. I would be much more comfortable with McCain leading our troops than Obama (although McCain was not my favorite candidate; neither of them were, in fact.). Experience in the Senate does not help either candidate though. That's not an executive position. The President is not legislating laws, as Senators do. Rather, he leads our country; senatorial experience helps neither candidate. But eh, this issue was not that significant in the election anyway, seeing as most went to Obama. I'd rather not talk about the argument between two candidates, for the election has already passed. 2. You bring many aspects regarding taxes in here, so I guess I'll pick at them one by one. a) There's no way I want the government controlling my healthcare. Ever. Oh, and as a preface, I'm coming at this ideologically. No time to reference facts, although I could find some if someone wants me to. Anyway, I would argue in complete contrast to the statement, "because it results in a better life for everyone." Socialism (yes, universal healthcare is socialism...) promises equality. However, the actual quality of that equality is not so much defined. Because let's face it, the government is not an efficient machine. Look at how bloated and inefficient the U.S. government is now. Look at how the USPS was before the introduction of private competition. Look at the problems with Medicare(sp?), and the fact that Social Security is backed by millions of IOUs, backed by the "full faith and credit of the U.S. Government!". We've put so much more on our plate than we can handle, and if I may, what was intended for our government to do. You want that in charge of your health? But back to healthcare: there is a huge, overinflated crisis that biased officials and spreading. As they report, there are currently 47 million people that are without medical insurance. Let me just say though, that that fact is a bit skewed, since some of those uninsured people choose not to get healthcare on their own prerogative, and some are illegal immigrants. But let's just use that number anyway. Even with all those considered, that number is not large compared to the total U.S. population. So, it seems that it would be easier to just give all of our money to the federal government to pay for our healthcare, and then take care of those who can't pay for it, right? Not so fast. If our system was to be truly universal, we would offer healthcare to all. That means everyone. Now, how many people in the U.S. don't pay taxes? some say mid 20s, others say 40%, and some claim that under Obama, it will raise to 48%. To be more realistic though, I believe the number to be at about a third of the population. So, that's roughly 33%. Even considering that all the presently uninsured pay taxes, they are about 15-16% percent of the population. When comparing that to 33%, the number isn't so big anymore. And here's the beauty of universal healthcare. Everyone gets treatment! Everyone gets a doctor! Everyone gets something, even if they aren't paying all those pesky taxes. So, what, are we going to hike up our taxes to cover the third of those who don't pay them? That's gonna cost a lot more in taxes than what our parents pay annually for health insurance. Paying more money for something that will be run by the inefficient government, thus becoming a system that too will then inherently become sluggish. Economically sound? Nope. We should be looking for private ways to get us out of this healthcare "crisis". Tort reform would do it. Put limits on ambulance chasers, and stop hiking up hospital prices and liability. That's only the beginning, too. (Oh, and some of those people should just trade the BMW in for the health insurance. And if they choose not to, and get sick, well then that sucks..?). You also bring up the notion that taxes do not "raise unemployment". Our economy is in trouble. If we don't move to lift burdens on our market, then we're toast. So let's think about it: Company x has ten employees. And they're doing great. The ten employees are happy, and the company is quite pleased with their profits. Soon, the company starts handing our raises, giving broader benefits, and works to make the employees lives better. Well, the economy is in trouble now. So they're cutting back a little, which is fine, because their jobs still exist, for now. But the government comes in and says, "Well to give rebate checks to these *cough* nontaxespayers *cough* we'll need an increase in your corporate income taxes. Sounds good? No? Too bad. Fork it over." So now the company has to continue to supply a salary to these employees, and also needs to give their earned money to the government. Well, the company doesn't want to go out of business. So, they axe two employees. They weren't that necessary anyway. But now those two people are without jobs. Also, the company moves to decrease production a little, just to play it safe. Well, now less productivity is injected into the markets, less people are buying goods, and more people are without jobs. Sounds like recession? Yup. 'Cause it is. So, why in the world would we increase taxes on job suppliers? God only knows. Maybe it's to reward those who make poor choices. I dunno. Ask Barack. 3. I kind of agree. Yaknow, the whole Ayers thing is bull. So are his other associations. The only one I buy, and do so adamantly, is his relationship with Wright. There's no denying their relationship. And Barack had to have heard his ideas in church before. If my pastor started to shout that stuff, or start talking about socialism, or American terrorism, I'd leave. Barack can agree if he wishes. But that makes me not like him. As for his other associations, I think it's all bull. If the relationship is valid though, guilt by association is completely acceptable. 4. I don't think Obama is a military expert either, just saying. But I might be the only person around still saying the invasion of Iraq was a good idea. That's just me though. Shows national leaders not to refuse UN resolutions, and not to play pranks on the recently attacked U.S. And there are other good reasons to, but that's for another debate. Point is, we need to focus on getting the job done in Iraq, cleaning up the horrible mess we've made, and letting them run their own country. I'm kinda sick of being there too. But I think it's necessary that we stay. 5. We need a president who can make tough decisions. Voting present doesn't work when running a country. Done. Well, hope that's good. Sorry if I offended anyone . I'm not trying to anyway =\
  6. bahaha I thought Mickey Mouse at first glance x].
  7. I dunno. I guess it's a mixed opinion. I've heard others say that she sounded awesome, and others like me saying otherwise. I think when compared to earlier performances of Misery Business, when it first came out, her voice wasn't as good. Maybe she was just changing it up a bit. But the point is, is that she's back on top now . That's all that matters anyway.
  8. Dunno if this has been posted already by someone, but here goes: I was thinking the same thing as you have for a while now. In fact, I even posted a similar thread on here (I'd link you but im too lazy lol). Basically, the response I kept getting was to the effect of "Well they've been touring for a while now (as you said), and it obviously will take a toll on the best of singers. But because she does know how to take care of her voice, with a little rest, she should be back on top in no time." That made me feel a bit better, but after that VMAs performance, I was immensely disappointed. She sounded, as you said, in pieces. She was straining, shouting half of the song, and not singing as the Hayley we knew in the summer of 07. And so for a while, I was just hoping that Hayley would take a break. We all know she can sing; but we also know that singing for two years straight will harm a voice. My entire idea of Hayley's voice changed yesterday though. When Decode came out, I thought that there would be no way she could sing that on stage if her voice was like how it was on the VMAs. There was just no way. Then I saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3KXTj9PBv8 I hope this helps.
  9. Yeah I've seen that video. It definitely shows off her voice. Especially the part when she sings "Give us Life again". That part is incredible @__@
  10. Ohh nice. Which concert was it?
  11. Hey guys thanks for the replies. I'm glad to hear it. Well I think Final Riot is ending soon, so hopefully then she'll have a well-deserved break . But yeah again thanks.
  12. Username: Atomsk First name: Josh Age: 16 Gender: Male How did you come across this amazing fansite that is paramorefans.com? I was googling Paramore one day and this popped up XD. Seems like that's how a lot of people wound up here haha. How did you come across the amazing band that is Paramore/ how long have you been a fan? I know a lot of people get crap for this but I first heard of Paramore on XM Radio last summer, with Misery Business playing. I didn't really like the song that much though. But I was just recently up one night youtubing music and stuff, and I came across Hallelujah, which got me into Paramore instantly. It's only been a few weeks though, but I've listened to a lot of their stuff, from both All We Know is Falling and RIOT! Favorite Paramore song? @_@ This is hard. I'm gonna say Hallelujah cause that's what got me into Paramore. But Emergency and Brighter are high up there too. Favorite lyric? Hmm. I dunno there's a lot of stuff that's good. I guess this one: "I wonder how am I supposed to feel when you're not here Cause I burned every bridge I ever built when you were here" --That's What You Get Any live show experiences you'd like to share? Nah =\. I'll wait until they come out with their third album though. Q1/Q2 of 09 hopefully I think. Interests: Other Music: Ehh I'm not gonna list a lot. I like Muse a lot too cause of their live performances, and cause they sound different. I'm also into System of a Down/Disturbed/Jimmy Eat World/Foo Fighters/Skillet/Evanescence
  13. Hey all, I'm new to the forum here, so I guess a quick intro is due. I'm a pretty new fan to Paramore. I've known about them for a while now, but I was never into them until recently while watching videos on Youtube. When I saw Hayley singing, I was hooked. Paramore is incredible, and it's insane how they perform live with such precision. So yeah, something's been bugging me lately on Youtube. The thing I most like about Paramore is watching Hayley sing live. She's a great live performer, and it's refreshing to see that her singing abilities are not studio-produced. (BTW: I'm a fan of Paramore for the whole band. All the musicians are crazy good. But I think Hayley is what tie's it together for me.) I dunno what's going on though. It seems like a lot of her recent performances aren't at par with how she used to sing (Cause I've seen videos from previous years). Idk, I guess it seems like she's yelling/shouting/talking a lot more than singing. I keep telling myself that the constant strain of singing hard everynight on tour can get to someone as good as Hayley, but I want some reassurance from more hardcore fans. I don't want to see what hooked me on the band ruined, yaknow? Thanks
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