kwik-silva Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 That's just overexcessive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 That's just overexcessive ...and what you said wasn't? adding a ":wink:" doesn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwik-silva Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 It's a joke lara, I haven't got a problem with it ":wink:" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 It's a joke lara, I haven't got a problem with it ":wink:" Wasn't very funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwik-silva Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes yes, not many things are funny to you though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes yes, not many things are funny to you though there you go again, being a dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwik-silva Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 That's not very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 That's not very nice Go sit in the naughty corner Matthew. No more sweets for you today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwik-silva Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Again?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anavi Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 LOL can we go back to the real problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxchick93 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 ...dude... are you seriously saying you don't want healthcare ? Like, seriously. don't go crying to obama when you get hit by a bus. Im not against healthcare. Im against hard working Americans paying more taxes to pay for everyones healthcare. which will enevitably cause more problems such as longer waiting lines, less qualified doctors, and it could take months to get life saving operations I don't know a whole lot about the matter either, but I agree with Andrew. I don't get why so many Americans are against it. Because in american we believe in capitalism (or so we did until obama) and we dont believe in socializing everything. then what is peoples motivation to get better jobs or make something more of there life if the goverment is supporting them? and this bill is taking away our rights. we HAVE to buy healthcare or else we get fines. some people just dont care and dont want to buy it, and you know what that should be there choice. not the goverment. sorry america isnt a socialist like the rest of europe. ohmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 universal health care doesn't make you socialist, that's a bullshit argument tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxchick93 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 universal health care doesn't make you socialist, that's a bullshit argument tbh oh really? the goverment taking from the rich (or anyone who makes a decent living) and giving it to the poor and attempting to make every economically equal isnt socialist? well it certainly is the exact oppsite of capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 there's a lot more to being 'socialist' than just providing universal health care china is a communist country, but they have universal health care canada isn't socialist, we have universal health care from what i know europe isn't that socialist, they have it too are you telling me literally every other industrialised country besides the united states is socialist just because they provide health care? because that's bull too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxchick93 Posted March 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Most european countries pay more taxes than americans to make everybody equal economically, America doesnt do that. And i do not believe in paying high taxes in order to make everyone equal, or support everyone. cause there are plenty of oppertunities to get healthcare and make a decent living for you self with out the goverments help. and if you get layed off for a bit then tough cause thats life, then people would be motivateed to get a job again. and btw, since you brought up canada i would like to inform you that because of canadians socialized healthcare many canadians have to come down the US to get life saving surgeries because your lines for these are too long and people can die before they ever happen thanks to socialized health care. and i did a project on this for school and by 2020 providing healthcare for all of the citizens in canada will cost 50% of total government revenue. seriously. 50% soley to healthcare, there are ton of other things a goverment needs to spend money on and that 50% will drain out American if we get socialized healthcare. then taxes are going to be ridiculous to compensate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 everybody pays taxes regardless so i don't see how that is a problem and lack of employment doesn't mean lack of motivation, that's a pretty ignorant comment to make also, all that stuff about canadian health care is pretty much bullshit too our wait times are really not that much longer and studies have shown that in some cases waiting for surgery is actually safer than rushing into surgery americans like to joke that we die waiting in line but that's not true in most cases when people go to america for treatment it's because of better technology, not our health care system the large majority of canadians support our system and we're rated as being healthier than americans so don't try and it make it sound like a problem when it's not and also, the american government spends more money on health care than we do so i don't really see how that argument is relevant if our government wants to put money towards health care instead of pointless wars let us the american government puts more money into their military than all other countries combined that my friend is pathetic and could be going somewhere much more productive like, oh i don't know, making sure your own citizens are healthy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waketheearth Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 ^I'm moving to Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 KAILEY COME LIVE WITH ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 americans like to joke that we die waiting in line but that's not true slightly off topic- If someone from Britain says that's not true about Britain, they're lying. People have died waiting in line from the NHS. I'm still irritated about their system. in b4 someone like Matt gets all defensive...I'm not having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 yeah but think of how many americans probably die waiting because they don't have as much money as someone else they're sorted by ability to pay and not basis of need which is ridiculous to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 yeah but think of how many americans probably die waiting because they don't have as much money as someone elsethey're sorted by ability to pay and not basis of need which is ridiculous to me I know that, someone I know who is very close to me is in that situation...So I never said I wasn't against free healthcare (for anyone who likes to assume so because they just want to argue), just that the British system needs some improvement. And I won't comment about a system I haven't experienced like Canada's, only the UK and the USA (although Canada's is most likely better than both.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 every system needs improvement, they're far from perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I know. But that's not my point. I'm not saying anything against Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 i never said that you were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 i never said that you were? I know! I was just saying! I can't tell if you're irritated with me or not so I was just trying to lighten the mood. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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