thorned_lilac_182 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 They rock!!! Listen to NIKI FM and OHIO is for lovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davesgrrl Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 My fav song is silver bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzzz Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Yep they're great I really like Niki FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conspiracy Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I like the rest of "The Silence in Black and White" better than the singles.. I'm sorry, I love them, I don't care what people say! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_caro Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 They are good! I have the new album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueled By Oreos Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 i don't have the new album.. my favorite song is "life on standby" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarlequinGerhl Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Haha Yeeeah there pretty awsome! "The Silence In Black And White" is the better of the two albums tho... I love Ohio Is For Lovers, Niki Fm and Blue Burns Orange... But from the new album Saying Sorry has to be my favourite I saw em back in january, put on a good show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayleys_my_role_model Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 I want their new album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_LOVE_HAYLEY!! Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 ive got both their albums awesome band !!!! i duno which album i prefer though i like them both alot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble_Pop_Electric<3 Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hawthorne Heights is the Most Extremist Awesomenesttt loveeleyyisttttt band ever. Besides Flyleaf and Paramore. My favorite Song is either Decembers,Silver Bullet,or Language Lessons. I Like the 1st Album better though. And OIFL and NF,have been out for a long time,so there must be some other songs,people can listen to if they dont know them. Its getting annoying how random people,are like OMG I LOVE HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS,I LOVEEE THERE NEW SONG OHIO IS FOR LOVERS. whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatserxxname Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 I really like Hawthorne Heights. their music is awesome and they are an amazing live band, their sound is awesome! they are really nice guys, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissablexthreat Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 i used to like them but i dont know what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneheartbeat Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 ^^^ i know what u mean!!! the only song i like from them is ohio is for lovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrowncoat Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Man, how shady is Victory Records...first Thursday says stuff like this, then TBS, now HH...that label is just horrible to their artists... Due to recent events we have decided to leave Victory Records. Our departure is anything but amicable. We have decided to leave Victory, in part due to the actions of the man who sits at the head of the label, Tony Brummel. Tony Brummel is a man that cares more about his ego and bank account than the bands themselves. Many of you are familiar with the greed driven letters sent out by Mr. Brummel: his manifesto calling rock supporters to arms and virtual declaration of war on hip-hop and Ne-Yo done under the guise of a band message; as well as the street-team letter which instructed people to re-arrange our CDs, putting them in higher visibility areas in stores. Unfortunately, the head of street-team, Abby Valentine, who understandably resigned following the incident, took the fall for this. At the time of the letters we were branded as racists by some, all over a letter we did NOT write, targeting a genre which we have NOTHING against whatsoever. Because of these letters, our second album debuted at ..3 on the charts, an incredible feat, which would normally be cause for joy, but now is tainted much like Barry Bonds statistics. When questioned about the letters Tony was more upset that we had told the press that he actually wrote the letters (not us) because he was more worried about rumors surrounding Taking Back Sunday and Thursdays exoduses being justified than the credibility and reputation of his current biggest band. Couple these letters with him threatening the head program director at Q101 in Chicago for putting the new Taking Back Sunday song into rotation to the point in which the program director pulls Saying Sorry from rotation and you can see why we would more than question whether or not the head of our label cares about us or his own ego more. Tony is a man whose greed knows no bounds. After selling more than 1.2 million copies of The Silence In Black and White and If Only You Were Lonely, we have never seen a single dollar in artist royalties from Victory Records. Tony will claim that we have not recouped, a term used by those in the music business which means the label has spent more money in advertising than has been made by CD sales. In fact questionable accounting practices are the culprit and we are in fact owed substantial amounts of money much like audits from Taking Back Sunday, Thursday and Atreyu have uncovered. You may be wondering, why now? Why did they wait three years before saying something? Why did they sound happy in that interview??? Like being in an abusive relationship, we let certain things slide as we were afraid, as many of the bands on Victory are, to stick our neck out for fear of being beaten, in this case represented by the threat of not being promoted as has been the case with certain bands on the roster. Were done being abused. The reasons stated above represent the final straw in a huge pile of hay that broke our backs. Undoubtedly Tony will proclaim that we are ungrateful and our success was due solely to his promotional efforts. In reality, promotion is only a portion of the equation in a bands success. Even then, in our case especially, promotional efforts can be attributed to the hard work of the band and staff at Victory, many of whom recently resigned or were fired due to differences with Tony. Non-stop touring, dedicated fans and songs (we challenge Tony to sell over 1 million blank CDs) account for the rest of the equation. Weve accomplished more in three years than most bands do in a lifetime and for that we are extremely grateful and consider ourselves very fortunate. Our situation with Tony Brummel is indicative of issues that all bands on Victory Records encounter on some level or another. We have decided to remove ourselves from the negative situation so that we can continue to do what we love best and focus on writing and playing music to people that care about what we have created. Hawthorne Heights More on this at Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002951851 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrowncoat Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Man, how shady is Victory Records...first Thursday says stuff like this, then TBS, now HH...that label is just horrible to their artists... Due to recent events we have decided to leave Victory Records. Our departure is anything but amicable. We have decided to leave Victory, in part due to the actions of the man who sits at the head of the label, Tony Brummel. Tony Brummel is a man that cares more about his ego and bank account than the bands themselves. Many of you are familiar with the greed driven letters sent out by Mr. Brummel: his manifesto calling rock supporters to arms and virtual declaration of war on hip-hop and Ne-Yo done under the guise of a band message; as well as the street-team letter which instructed people to re-arrange our CDs, putting them in higher visibility areas in stores. Unfortunately, the head of street-team, Abby Valentine, who understandably resigned following the incident, took the fall for this. At the time of the letters we were branded as racists by some, all over a letter we did NOT write, targeting a genre which we have NOTHING against whatsoever. Because of these letters, our second album debuted at ..3 on the charts, an incredible feat, which would normally be cause for joy, but now is tainted much like Barry Bonds statistics. When questioned about the letters Tony was more upset that we had told the press that he actually wrote the letters (not us) because he was more worried about rumors surrounding Taking Back Sunday and Thursdays exoduses being justified than the credibility and reputation of his current biggest band. Couple these letters with him threatening the head program director at Q101 in Chicago for putting the new Taking Back Sunday song into rotation to the point in which the program director pulls Saying Sorry from rotation and you can see why we would more than question whether or not the head of our label cares about us or his own ego more. Tony is a man whose greed knows no bounds. After selling more than 1.2 million copies of The Silence In Black and White and If Only You Were Lonely, we have never seen a single dollar in artist royalties from Victory Records. Tony will claim that we have not recouped, a term used by those in the music business which means the label has spent more money in advertising than has been made by CD sales. In fact questionable accounting practices are the culprit and we are in fact owed substantial amounts of money much like audits from Taking Back Sunday, Thursday and Atreyu have uncovered. You may be wondering, why now? Why did they wait three years before saying something? Why did they sound happy in that interview??? Like being in an abusive relationship, we let certain things slide as we were afraid, as many of the bands on Victory are, to stick our neck out for fear of being beaten, in this case represented by the threat of not being promoted as has been the case with certain bands on the roster. Were done being abused. The reasons stated above represent the final straw in a huge pile of hay that broke our backs. Undoubtedly Tony will proclaim that we are ungrateful and our success was due solely to his promotional efforts. In reality, promotion is only a portion of the equation in a bands success. Even then, in our case especially, promotional efforts can be attributed to the hard work of the band and staff at Victory, many of whom recently resigned or were fired due to differences with Tony. Non-stop touring, dedicated fans and songs (we challenge Tony to sell over 1 million blank CDs) account for the rest of the equation. Weve accomplished more in three years than most bands do in a lifetime and for that we are extremely grateful and consider ourselves very fortunate. Our situation with Tony Brummel is indicative of issues that all bands on Victory Records encounter on some level or another. We have decided to remove ourselves from the negative situation so that we can continue to do what we love best and focus on writing and playing music to people that care about what we have created. Hawthorne Heights More on this at Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002951851 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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