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glorya

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    None of us are perfect - I think that's what the past few days have taught us. You and Glo and I have all treated Diego and others incredibly poorly. There's absolutely no excuse for what we said or did...but at the same time, the more I think about it, the more I kind of realize that it takes something like Jarrod's post to trigger this - sometimes it takes someone smacking you right in the face and saying "look at what you've done" before you have that "oh shit" moment where you can't rationalize your behavior anymore...and you start to see the harm you've caused.

     

     

    I could not have said it better myself. I definitely needed that, regardless of how confused/angry I was in the beginning.

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    And Ash, I don't know much about this, but it's only made me respect you more. Feel better.

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    As for the anonymous poster, regardless of who it is, since we can't be 100% sure anyway, I can see why you might have wanted to post under that name. That's not what bothers me. The thing I don't get is this: Yes, there are several of you who do not accept our apologies and those of you who are still going to question our sincerity. It's completely understandable, as what we did was wrong and the way it took us this long to express our own feelings of shame was wrong, but I don't think it's okay to tell people what they should think. EVERYONE is entitled to their OWN opinions. It shouldn't matter if they line up with yours or not. You are always more than welcome to share your thoughts and feelings, but don't impose it on others. I think everyone on here is level headed enough to think for themselves.

  2. look, im sorry.. but i dont call multiple, long time, huge posters, staff members leaving "pulling through". its more like "barely scraping through". u guys said some nasty things. some really nasty things. and to have everybody forgive u after just saying a simple "im sorry" is ridiculous. it may be good enough for some people but it isnt for me. i think u abused ur power. the private forum combined with how much power in the paramore community u guys have (or think u have) made u believe that u could say whatever u want about "regular fans". what u did was not a confession. u cant confess to something thats already out there for everyone to see. yes, u acknowledged that what u had said was wrong - because it was - and u apologised. but the fact that y'all are getting praised for "coming clean" disgusts me. especially since u have already stated that had diego not "outed" u would never have apologised or "come clean". my guess is u would've kept bashing forum members. i dont doubt u were upset over the whole situation when u said what u did but u should not have blatantly insulted people supporting diego just because u were mad at him. that was just childish.

     

    PF boardies are handling this in a very mature manner... but in my opinion this issue should not be excused or forgotten about.

     

    diego broke a rule. he was kicked. (yeah, yeah... there was more to it bla bla)

     

    u guys break a rule that may not have to do with the band but it has to do with every single member of this forum... nothing... and nothing will happen!

     

    unfair and unjust.

     

    I agree with everything you have to say. We did abuse our power. and I'm sorry, I guess confessed was the wrong word, but yes I did acknowledge what I did, but it was not simple. Anything but.

     

    As for whether people start to forgive me and whether they have given me praise, that's not something I can control, but that was probably not addressed to me anyway. But you're right, that is the ugly truth of the matter. I truthfully said that I would not have come out with it if Diego hadn't of posted the print screens and I can't imagine how horrible that must be to hear, especially after what I said in the print screen. So upon what I already apologized for, I think this is an equally substantial, if not even larger, apology. As for people's forgiveness, I think you intended that to be posed at other members, so I won't say anything else.

  3. thank you

    out of all of the posts i was most shocked with you, glo, i actually didnt believe you had said that. and then i saw it.

    i agree with martin, i think both brent and glo apologising in such a mature way is what needs to be done, and honesty in this situation really is the best thing

    i hope that pf can grow and learn from this and everyone deserves a second chance

    even though noting of what was said was directly at me, im sure it hurt alot of people who are friends or even just aquantinces of the people being "discussed", and that really does show the type of people on here. people who have eachothers backs and support eachother.

    so i think brent and glo have shown me that asking for forgiveness is what was needed and as we are such a forgiving group of people, that it will be recieved, however there will still remain some bitterness but alot of the respect i had previously lost completely has been regained, but it will still take time to regian is much, if i can ever have that same respect again

    i just hope it never happens again

     

    Thanks Emily for reading into this so much. It's nice to hear that you're gradually regaining respect. I'm still in such awe by this community. You people are way too nice. I don't even know if I would accept my own apology if I was on the outside looking in. I didn't know what everyone's reactions would be because what I was awful on so many levels and it was more foul mouthed that anything else ever said between the staff, so for you to say that, really means a lot. Really. I am so amazed that some of you could say such nice words :crybad: This makes me feel worse about what I said. I can't say I deserve this generosity. I really don't.

  4. ok, so im posting this under a fake username so i wont get personally bashed for expressing my opinion...

     

    ok, here goes.... **prepares self**

     

    honestly, cant u guys see that nobody "came clean". coming clean would mean they confessed to what they had said. they didnt. they were exposed by diego, when meant they were FORCED to apologise. theyre not sorry for what they said. theyre sorry they got caught.

     

    i dont see how i can ever return here after this loss in trust. i know i'll see you guys around the lj community or at a show or something. but not here.

     

    i also just wanna say that if this post gets deleted i will be extremely (well, moreso then i already am) dissapointed in this site.

     

    edit: i just wanna clarity... this IS NOT a bashing post. this is simply my opinion on the matter. i dont want this post to result in bashing of me or the staff. this is simply the way i see things. if u agree, ok. if not, thats ok too. also, id appreciate it if y'all could just ignore the fact that im posting anonymously. i know im a coward. and im definately willing to admit it.

     

    I can understand your loss of trust here, and because you say you're going to stick around (atleast to see if we delete your post, which we won't) I think you deserve to see a responce, especially one coming from a staff member. It is not cowardly of you at all to post anonymously, although I'm pretty sure I would say this to anyone else who shared the same opinions you do.

     

    First of all, I really hope you don't take this the wrong way. I'm really sad to see you go over this because over the last 48 hours, I've seen this community pull through in a way that only PF knows. It has amazed me. I’m not going to argue your definition for what coming clean entails, but I did confess to what I said. Yes, it was after Diego posted the print screens, but it was something I did on my own. I’m sorry, I hope I don’t sound hostile or anything, but it’s hard to see you say something like that because this was not something I was forced to do. It was definitely hard for me, confessing every little thing I said and why I said it, which their was no excuse for, but I am sorry, and in no way was I forced to apologize. Up until yesterday, I wasn’t even sure what to think, but I had an idea. Yes, I’m sorry I got caught, but not so much for the sake of getting caught. I’m more sorry that people had to read that because it meant indirect upon undirect backtalk and that was very hurtful on my part.

  5. I really cant think of anything to add except I am glad we've come to this. I hope we can keep in contact more and things of the like, such as here and myspace. Im willing to talk.

     

    honesty I didnt know what else to say here, I didnt want to leave it like I didnt see it or ignored it. but yeah (:

     

    I feel the same =) and I really hope you feel better about this now that we've talked. I felt really bad for you reading the other threads.

  6. glo, i only have questions about your sincerity because you said if diego wouldnt have shared this with others that you wouldnt have done anything about what you said.

     

    Although what I said is true, there have been countless times where I wonder if I really meant all those things I said just because I kept a grudge or if I was just in mean spirit and I feel guilty when I say this but it was a little bit of both. So what I'm trying to say is although I admit , I never would of come forward on my own, I have thought about the people I'm offending.

  7. well, if you would have called i can honestly say i would have been calm and very easy to talk to... and it wouldve prolly been good. you prolly wouldve slept better ya know... but i mean, you did it the way you felt was right and i admire that.

     

    as for kerrie's post, i am still so damned confused as to why or how ppl are being shitty to her??? it completely blows my mind. who knows tho, i mean maybe when i talk to kerrie she acts like a completely different person idk i guess...

     

     

    No doubt, you would of been chill to talk to, but I wouldn't have been so I definitely spared you the bitch in me =)

    Last night I think I would of gone off the walls if I had called you especially if you weren't planning on telling me what you were trying to get at with all your being vague. I'm glad everything happened the way it did. I had a chance to sleep on it and gather my thoughts before setting everything straight.

  8. wow I kinda feel bad for lashing out on the other thread without reading the rest. I was just excited for diego to post the threads to see what would happen. he did it too early and now everyones pretty much forgaven or whatever and here I come to stir it up again.

     

    Glo, honestly I feel bad for this but I dont remember a comment I said about you being a mod or whatever. maybe cause I edited it? I dunno but yeah Id always be confused how you really felt about me cause talking to me generally you seemed nice then Id find stuff that wasnt so nice. The first time I ever really started rethinking about some people on here was last summer when I found that one comment on you page and then alyssa(tn) brought it to someones attention or something cause I guess it shocked her to bits. I thought since then it stopped till yesterday when Diego sent me the stuff. I wasnt overly shocked since I knew people never liked me in the first place but seeing it was still happening behind my back had me shitless. Ive had thoughts running through my mind from yesterday about how I thought you guys were a disgrace to fans of paramore and your name itself. I dunno how you would call youself a mod or admin doing that stuff. I was gonna post it but iv changed my mind. I accept your apology, its really nice of you to do this but at the same time TO BE HONEST im still gonna think if people are gonna talk about me after what I post or something. I just have those thoughts. well anyway yeah sorry for being unleashed in jarrods thread before I read these. Its just I couldn't wait to get out what I wanted to say..

     

     

    I don't blame you at all for lashing out. You had every right and it's not your fault you didn't read everything first, I've deserved it anyway. I'm glad you brought up past instances, because that's how all of this started and I appreciate your not posting, even though it was outside of PF.

     

    I know that a lot of you, namely Kerrie and Jack, will always be thinking about us talking behind your backs whenever you post, but I also hope you know that this isn't something we're saying just 'cause Diego posted the print screens, so we can go back to it. I'm not just going to forget how I hurt everyone on here, I don't take this lightly. I understand if you don't, but I hope that you see this. I think I speak for Brent too when I say that we're really trying for a positive change...

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