glorya

you have every right to feel that way...

I don't know what else to say

Thanks, Jarrod. It's nice to know we have people like you who will stand up for others. It means a lot that you've been reading every word and taking it all into consideration. That being said, I came [ this ]close to picking up the phone and calling you last night. Just ask Brent or Ash, but i figured it wouldn't solve anything though and so I didn't.

I just can not say enough how sorry I am for all the people I've hurt...so thank you for letting me do that, regardless of how you feel, I'm glad the opportunity came up for me to come out with everything.

Glorya, I really believe that your response to this situation, the way you have handled it, has been the best thing for us as a community to have read. This is taking nothing away from what others have said, but I feel like what was most upsetting to people regarding what was said in the staff forum has finally been addressed and is being reconciled. I feel like, although respect has been lost, as upsetting as it has been for all parties, it can be gained back.

 

As disappointed as I was, even though I wasn't directly addressed in any of the images Diego had posted, I did take offense and I was struck by the people it was coming from. Reading Brent's thoughts on it, and now yours, does a lot to ease the tension. It's really encouraging to see people all over coming to realizations, whether it was on their own or helped along. This has become a good situation born out of a bad one. I really, really admire this community for that.

That made all of the feelings I've delt with and every word I've written since this afternoon worth it. It's been diffcult. Thank you for that. I really do hope that everyone can start to see where we're coming from because I do feel good vibes coming out of all this open honesty...

By the way, for those of you who don't know me personally, I know I'm usually referred to as Glo and I refer to myself as Glo too, but my full name is Gloria (glorya is just the online PF alias).

I did...its just I got here right when it was all over with. stupid work

Please read my thread

Kerrie, read the other two threads while you're waiting.

 

EDIT: this question pertains to anyone that was talkin shit in the staff room....

im just curious if this would have all come about if diego never ripped Miz Biz or if jarrod wouldnt have pressed the envelope [so to speak]?

 

or would yall still have been talkin shit about some people?

 

i just feel weird about the way that this is all coming out now. ive lost a lot of respect.

I'm going to be completely straight here and say that personally, I never would have come forward if Diego hadn't set the record straight with everyone. The horrible thing is, he's been trying to get us to stop for a long time, not only by telling us, but by being an example of this himself. Before Diego was asked to leave, he rarely posted in the OTST and I'm assuming a lot of that had to do with us making remarks about certain forum members. It's never been more clear too me than it is now...but back to what I was saying. My answer for you is no. It's horrible, but it's the truth. I am so glad that Jarrod and Diego have spoken up though because I've held a lot of these feelings back until today, and it would of been hard to say anything for myself otherwise. They created a gateway for my coming clean, although I was completely distraught about the way it was brought about at first. I know that sounds lame, pathetic, and babyish, but it's true and there's no excuse for it.

I like to think of myself as a nice person especially being apart of this community, and so it's hard to hear some people say they've lost respect

^ I agree entirely.

 

I'd already known some of this information beforehand, so my level of shock has somewhat deteriorated.

 

But what did shock me when I logged into this board was the level of peacefulness and calmness. I'll admit, I was expecting a full-scale mutiny against the staff, but what I saw was a bunch of extremely mature responses and apologies, and I'm really proud of this board and all it's members for being able to do so. I know some people won't find it easy to accept many of the apologies, specifically people who were directly mentioned, but what's important is that you guys took the high road and admitted you'd been wrong. And that eased a lot of the tension in this forum.

^That really touched me.

^Thanks I appreciate it. It took me a long time and it was difficult to write. I didn't know what to say first, I'm just glad I got to address everything I've been holding back for a while now.

 

as for why i quoted this comment, i am a bit confused as to why you were angry about my initial post... is it because you were just confused and pissed that i didnt just come out and say who was to blame for all this unrest?? or is it just because you knew it was about you and the initial reaction was hostility toward me and whoever else was involved?? it confuses me a bit, but i believe you are sincere with your first words and you truly believe you did something wrong.

 

you are a very opinionated person glo, much like myself only you actually put it out there much more often than most. i dont disrespect you for doing that, but sometimes you have to know when to act like an adult, which you are 4 hours away from (18!!!! lol) btw, and shut up. i hate to be blatant but that be the truth young one. i know you know this, but sometimes its hard when you are caught up in the moment with all the drama... and all you want to do is say something to make yourself look good. so just to fill you in... this doesnt make you look good. no matter what you think...

 

i accept your apology and im sure everyone else will as well... in their own way of course... i just want you and the rest to learn from this and become a better person in the process... i have great faith that this will change us all for the better and if not, than what the hell right...

 

anyways, thank you glorya for doing this. it means alot no matter how hostile i may sound. its still all fresh in my head and its tough to just get past when you make a big apology post ya know. but big thanks to you.

It was the first one. I was definitely angry because I was confused as to what or who this was about. Thanks for the explaination as to why you were so vague because it definitelty makes sense now. I also want to thank you for your forgiveness, especially after seeing your posts on the last 2 threads for the past couple days, and I want you to know that I hold it at a very high level.

As for looking good, I know that's a lost cause, but thanks for filling me in anyway. (and over here, I have another 7 hours >.<)

I agree with my comrade.

 

 

Well its nice to see another reflective response, to be honest I am surprised by your post. I am kinda speechless.

I am glad that everybody is comming clean, I guess that needed to be done.

I dont know, maybe some people had to leave for this to become true.

Nice post.

It was nice to see the positive responses after my post.

I accept your appology.

Thank you. That means more to me than you know. I'm also really sorry about my outburst from yesterday. That was uncalled for and I was angry because of the confusion that arose from Jarrod's initial post.

That means a lot to me, the remark that I made towards everyone that supported Diego was the only thing I ever said about that situation right away. In terms of what Jarrod said, I wasn't sure what he meant although I had a pretty good idea. But still, I didn't want to say anything I would regret later. I just did not want to post at all on the main boards until I could gather my thoughts...but yeah the environment here lately has really gotten to me.

EDIT: For those of you who have no idea wth is going on, first read this thread:

http://paramorefans.com/boards/showthread.php?t=4644

after you read that thread, read this one:

http://paramorefans.com/boards/showthread.php?t=4656

then mine(this one).

Before I even start to say anything, I would like to say that Paramore Fans has always been like my place of refuge and I’d even go as far as to call it a haven, whether it had to do with the music or not. I joined the boards back in 2005 and before then I had never been a member of any other forum, but what drew me to PF was the outward friendliness and eagerness to help. Even the staff were open to me as a new member, namely Diego and Brent. To this day (yes still, believe it or not), this fan site continues to impress me with the amount of outward support and geniality the members provide each other with.

I've just gotten through reading all of Diego's last thread here and I finally think it's time I should say something. Last night I was going back and fourth reading Jarrod's thread over and over again always having an idea about what he was talking about, but not being quite sure. I was skeptical about posting on it at all, because I was afraid I would post something out of anger about not knowing exactly what he was talking about. I didn't appreciate the way whatever it was that was being circled around was being circled around. But now everything kind of makes sense, and I'm beginning to understand Jarrod's need to post it, and I never doubted for a second that his intentions were nothing but genuine and in the member's best interests.

For the last couple of weeks I have not been able to come onto the forums very often due to school and final college testing. When I came back to the boards, I had seen that the Diego was asked to leave and talked to Ash immediately about what had happened over the coarse of the last week. That being said, I was very angry with some of the responses I was reading in Diego and Alyssa's goodbye threads. That was what led me to make that remark I did in Diego's previous thread. Being as temperamental as I was, I didn't stop for a minute to think about what the members know and don't know before I said that. It was an awful thing to say. No doubt. It was also immensely hypocritical of me as well. I believe that the members of PF are what make PF the tight family that it is and that everyone should be respected off the bat. I can’t even repeat my own comment because I’m so disgusted and embarrassed. I’ve said a number of nasty things about this whole situation, but this is the worst comment I could have possibly made and I honestly am so sorry because now that I’ve seen you guys speak out and now that I’ve seen how so many of you are hurt and affected, it has dawned on me just how much value there is in the support that you all have been giving Diego and Alyssa during a time like this. I acted inexcusably and Diego is right, this is not the first time I’ve done something like this, but I owe you all an enormous apology because this has been the most inexcusable and has affected the most people. Whether you accept or even believe me is completely up to you. For those members out there who I’ve ever spoken to on a personal level, I really hope that our friendship ties, even though just online, have not been severed. You know who you are.

What Diego mentioned about the OTST (Off Topic Staff Thread). It was a thread I started right after the whole staff came together to discuss some pretty horrible things that I had said about Diego and also another staff member in private messages. After all of the explanations, I wanted to start the OTST as a way to communicate more openly and honestly to the rest of the staff after all the havoc that had just happened. I’ll even post my first post in that thread for you guys to see. I feel like you all deserve to know about the OTST because it was initially where all the back talking occurred.

Ok so I thought this thread would be a good idea because I know some of us have things on our minds sometime that aren't really staff/PF oriented, but we'd still like to share with the staff and only the staff for whatever reasons. If you guys have anything on your minds, as random as it is, feel free to post it here. With all the drama we're been having here lately, I think it would be a good idea to have a thread where anyone can share thoughts. Maybe it'll bring us closer together as a staff. I just want to keep the morale up.

 

If this ends up being totally useless, we can close it.

It honestly saddens me to see something I started for a positive reason turn out so badly. I truly hate that me, along with this thread, am hugely apart of the reason for all of the unrest on the site these past few days. My feelings are the same as Brent’s. It’s in no way okay to talk about people behind their backs. It made it 10x nastier because I did it over the internet and to a certain group of people only. I take responsibility for all of it. I can (whether you think so or not) imagine what it’s like to find out awful things people have been saying about you for SO long, only from personal experiences outside of PF.

Diego, as a person who I’ve had quite a long and often times rocky history with, and also for all of the dedication you’ve put into the site, I’m honestly sad to see you go and I’m sad that it had to happen this way. A couple weeks ago, when we started to really talk again I was starting to think that we could possibly retain our friendship. I know that all of the doubts you’ve ever had of that being attainable was due to me. If I could have my way, I’d wish to go back to your post in the OTST when you said that this crap talking about forum members is nonsense and thought long and hard about that. I know it sounds really bad, but it’s true. I see that I’ve hurt you indirectly in so many ways and that’s even worse than telling you directly. I hope that eventually you’ll be able to see that I’m saying all this, not because of the board members to read, but to retain the friendship we once had (or the one that I thought we were having). If you don’t, I completely understand because you shouldn’t have to, but I hope you do for my sake.

Jess, as a staff member and a person, I’ll admit I haven’t known you as well as I would have liked to, but I wanted to apologize again for the whole Kerrang situation because that was beyond bitchy of me (yes I still think about it) and tell you that I appreciate all of the work you’ve done for PF, not to mention the Kerrangs.

Kerrie, first of I’m so sorry that you had to see all that first hand without me talking to you about any tension we’ve had between us ever. I think it first started when I became a mod here. You made a comment on me and steph’s welcome thread about how you didn’t agree with one of the choices. I saw that you edited it pretty quick afterwards and I appreciate that. But I really took what you initially said to heart because it meant a lot to me that I was going to be a mod. Ever since then, whenever I saw you on the forums, I kept thinking about what you initially said and it started a small grudge to say the least. I always felt like I wasn’t worthy of being on the staff. This is what triggered all of the comments I’ve ever made about you in the OTSF. It’s cruel, unfair, and I’m sorry for saying it. I know you’ve even come across things I’ve said on myspace in the past and I apologize for that too. I’ve chatted in on a phone party a long time ago with you and I’ve been on the forum long enough to know that you’re a generally a good person. I hope you can see where I’m coming from. And Thanks for wishing me happy bday on myspace. I can’t say I was not surprised to see that with all of the tension between us. I hope that you can eventually forgive me.

Finally, to whomever else this may concern that I’ve offended, hurt, or concerned in the past, I just want to say that the past few days, the whole PF atmosphere has been really ugly and negative. I know I have a lot to do with this, but it upsets me to see it this way because it is the total opposite of how it was when I first joined. I haven’t said anything yet on the main forums for the past few days because I knew it would be out of anger and I’d probably just say something mean and stupid again. I know that even after having said all of this, you all still have doubts about me being a mod, and it’s understandable. If you have any objections with me, after reading this, still being on staff, I’d like to know because all this could constitute a deserving leave from staff, on my part. I may not have done as much work as the other staff members, but I do try. Please don’t get me wrong. Like Diego, I don’t want to see PF broken to shambles. I love the family that I have here and I love the community that this place is. It is incredible. I know it’ll take a while for everyone to regain trust, but the last thing I want to see is a good number of you leaving. I hope that we can heal from all of this. I know that I’m going to have to do my part too, and you have my word that I’m going to work on it.

Thanks for reading what I have to say. I know it was long and please don’t immediately jump to conclusions about this being a way for me to save face or anything like that because it’s not like that at all, but I would like what you guys have to say so please post.

-Glo

thanks for posting!

wow small dresses sold out fast!...I wonder if they even had small with to begin with or if it was always only medium and large...Ash is getting me a dress tonight =/

Edit:I didn't know the shirt said that Kerrie. Thanks for telling me. It makes the shirt that much cooler =)

this has already beenposted, so therefore, i'm closing

http://www.paramorefans.com/boards/showthread.php?t=3900

ahhhh i'm excitedddd

Their policy is the band's policy and paramore allows you to photograph them so yeah it's okay.

$%^&*!

i wish i knew the words lmao.

we have lyrics =)

haha sweet I usually like to make sigs when people have HQ pics

yeah sure =)

that's the policy with all my stuff, you are free to take it if you wish and credit is optional

I bet it's girls

haha sounds like im getting alot but the dress, leggings, maybe a tote bag depending on how cool it looks, the riot shirt and the sleeveless hoodie

so thats gonna be about 90$ and possibly more if I get some this providence stuff D: aye thats alot and I still have 2 other shows to go to right after on friday and saturday. I got paid and only have 270$. haha it better be enough.

damn girllll

I'm just glancin at the dress and the hour glass shirt. But unlike you, I'm a broke joke.

alright. who's excited? What are you guys all doing today before the show? talk

hayley sounded good but it was only like the 2nd or 3rd show for orlando

Yeah we'll see how she is my mid may. I hope we have nothing to be worried about.

thank you for posting this =)