Anavi

Love it thank you

No actually , any new band photo will do

Thanks PM me when you have something cute

i confess that receiving a business call at 10:39 PM is not normal. Who da hell calls this late? And all that to learn that disaster happened at work....

Betty I am in need for a proper sig Will you be so kind and make me one I

Just red  The Autobiography of Jack The Ripper 

i remember youuuuuuuu hi!

 

 

i confess i can't believe all this flooding

Heeey Kayla

Literally just about to be my confession

Yes 

I hope you and your family is doing okay Kayla. :\

And welcome back Ivana!

 

I confess that I'm ready for fall, but I don't want my summer to end either. 

Thanks

I confess now I'm back and nobody is online

I confess  I haven't been around here for 3? years. 

I think that most of the people who use to visit this boards just cant seem to find the time myself included. And there isn't much new going around so that is probably one of the reasons.But i miss this.

NICHOLAS HOULT <3

 

is that a weird kid from about a boy?

wow he is all grown up

just to warn you ahead of time, this is going to be really long and all over the place. i'll be amazed if anyone actually reads it all and understands it hahaha. however, animal welfare is something very dear to me so i have a lot of opinions around it. (note that i said animal welfare, not rights. they're two different things. i'm no extremist PETA freak, just fyi.)

 

first i'd like to address the idea that dairy and eggs are 'fine' because 'we're not killing the animals'. slaughter is not the only form of suffering animals go through. these animals are stuffed into cages and factories where most of the time they can't even turn around. they have no fresh air, no sun, no veterinary or basic care, no proper food. i'd be surprised if they even had clean water. in fact, when egg laying hens aren't 'doing their job' they're denied food and water, sometimes for weeks at a time, to 'shock' them into laying an egg. male chicks are brutally murdered right after they're born because they cannot lay eggs and they're not good enough for meat. chickens raised for eggs and chickens raised for meat are different breeds of sorts. they're beaten by the 'farmers' and left there, dead or alive. they don't care. they have their beaks seared off with a hot blade so they can't peck each other. do these chickens look okay to you? dairy cows don't have it any better. they're locked away just like the chickens (and pigs raised for meat). they're consistently impregnated so they can produce milk. the machines they use to milk them are often painful. once the calf is born, it's ripped away from the mother and sold for veal. when the cow's productivity drops it's slaughtered for meat. both cows and hens have dramatically shorter lives than they normally should because of all the stress. yes, chickens laying eggs and cows producing milk is 'natural', but there's absolutely nothing natural about how we're going about it.

 

i'm sure most people are aware of the brutality happening to animals raised for meat. quite similar to dairy cows and chickens. if you're not, google it. meat.org had some pretty horrifying videos that scared me off eating meat. one of the things i forgot to mention above is that these animals have been bred so they grow bigger and faster. this usually results in broken bones and other injuries. many animals starve to death because they literally cannot walk to get food. i watched a documentary a few weeks ago (food, inc.) and in one scene the cows are literally up to their knees in their own shit. animals that are diseased, injured, nearly dead are still slaughtered and sold for you to eat. food poisoning much? a lot of diseases and infections that come from food nowadays are mutated from previous strains because of how we produce the meat. not to mention all the growth hormones, pesticides, and antibiotics that are now in there. think about that next time you eat a hamburger and see how you feel.

 

another point i'd like to talk about is the environmental impact of factory farming. check out this page. i'll sum some of it up for people too lazy to read that. the large majority of crops grown in the US (and i'm sure elsewhere as well) goes to feeding livestock. we're producing almost six times as much meat as we were 50 years ago. livestock is also one of if not the biggest contributor to greenhouse gases. where's all the global warming freaks? worry about that instead of wasting money on 'electric' cars. going to post some direct quotes now.

 

 

bit shocking, isn't it?

i have an unlimited amount of respect for vegetarians, and vegans especially. the dedication and effort it takes to follow a proper vegan lifestyle is outstanding. there's animal products and by-products in everything. food, personal care products, household products, clothing, furniture...you name it, there's probably some kind of animal derived ingredient in there. who would think that marshmallows contain animal ingredients? how about your daily multivitamin? hello, gelatin. they're everywhere. now i'm not saying if you're not vegetarian/vegan you're a horrible person, because i don't believe that. as i said in the beginning, i believe in animal welfare. the idea of using animals for things like food and clothing in and of itself does not bother me. what bothers me is how we do it. and i definitely believe people need to be more aware of what is going on and demand change.

 

anyway, i think i said everything i wanted to. if you actually read all this...congratulations, you're probably the only one.

read it!

Do i get something for that?

Can you link to the comment he replyed?

that is half true. it'll increase revenue for the time being but you also have to take into account who will turn away from paramore because of the bad publicity in the long run.

All i know is that people who never heard of them before are commenting on what happened ...

We'll see how it will turn up to be.

Of course they won't comment. That would only induce more negative publicity and paramore really can't take anymore bad publicity.

there is no better commercial as bad publicity. More people hear about bad stuff then the god ones. I believe that someone who never heard about Paramore will know about them now so it won't end up bad for them.

Finally some words of wisdom. Good point.

i didnt mean you, that is why i said general statement

LOL OKy doky

hey, I agree too, am I awesome? hahaha jk.

 

but no I definitely do agree, that's definitely how his demeanor in the video came off as.

Yeah Erin you too

general statement

 

this is just the reality of human life. we are all different thus see things differently and that is why we have different opinions. #kanyeshrug we shouldn't argue or insult, or be like lulz u sux ~~

 

idek

 

some Christmas ehhh?

I wasn't trying to insult you.

I just pointed how different views we have.

@Kayla sure we are

that's how i saw it too....

I can't believe that we have almost the same opinion about most of the stuff regarding this topic

anavi - he didn't have to laugh or roll his eyes, though. it came across as if "lol i dont't care LOL" i know he was confirming a blog post, but still it was awkward to watch o.o

 

anyway

I got it like lol i can't believe that i am actually have to confirm what i wrote LOL+eyes roll

guess you got it different way

i'm personally rather excited to see what parasecrets comes up with after this

I haven't been around much lately so where can i read those parasecrets?

he rolled his eyes, laughed and was like 'not much i can do'.

It was an awkward situation. Explaining that something you wrote is really something you wrote.

What could he do.

Also not even trying to start the fight with someone,Harry

as I said I will bite my tongue first...

If there's one thing I've learnt from my time at many different forum boards, it's that going head to head against a moderator will not end well.

You may not like it Erin, but a forum board is not a democracy. Better to just bite your tongue and walk away from the thread.

 

Edit: Ivana just narrowly beat me to the "bite your tongue" thing by about 5 seconds.

Hahahha yes

Naw. I dont have a problem, the rules are simple. We as a website support the band, not bash them. Our aim is to be positive, not negative. So i sure as hell am not going to let that be ruined. There is no problem having an opinion and stating who you think is right or wrong or anything like that. It's when the name-bashing or bitchyness and sarcasm towards people start, thats when ive a problem. Especially when they read the site. We take great pride in that the band read the site. Im perfectly grown up, you're outburst of "being up hayleys ass" yesterday showed signs of immaturity on your part.

It seems to me that you are a bit contradictory in what you are trying to say.First you say it is ok for people to have different opinions and then it seems like only opinion you will accept is the one that is saying god things about current situation.

or am I wrong?

I was about to say something and then i bite my tongue(read moved my fingers from keyboard.)It is not worth it.

So i basically wanted to quote every single one of Kayla's and Erin's posts just to say girls you said what i meant to.

And to add

I cant believe that people are still trying to pin Josh bitterness to his and Hayley's post relationship status.... I mean c'mon people spend so much time in relationship with other people just to realize that in the end that person is not as half as good as they thought it is. So i don't see the reason why mention this, it was 3years ago, do you really think he holds his feelings about that 3years after.... Stop turning everything that was going around into post breakup stuff cause it obviously isn't.

And i knew it was way much into this than "nah they just decided to quit the band"

yes one more thing,i have to say i much more appreciate Josh and Zac after this video confirmation,idk why.