totally! i saw them in SLC a couple days ago, and it was horrendous. i'll be honest, i liked their CD when it first came out. it was a guilty pleasure. but seeing them the other night made me realize how much of a fucking joke this band is. Trace is such a cocky bitch, and has a creepy whisper voice, only talks about sex while singing to 12 year olds, takes off his shirt like he is a sex god...the list goes on and on. and at the very end of their set, he walks up to the front of the stage, and wipes his sweat all over a couple towels like he is God or something, and then throws them into the audience... people actually tried to grab for them. what is wrong with them?! they are such a fake band. honestly. people don't know real talent anymore...