waketheearth Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 KAILEY COME LIVE WITH ME ABSOLUTELY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I know! I was just saying! I can't tell if you're irritated with me or not so I was just trying to lighten the mood. :/ i'm not haha i was just saying the USA/UK aren't the only systems with their flaws ABSOLUTELY. YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicjunkie88 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 yeah but think of how many americans probably die waiting because they don't have as much money as someone elsethey're sorted by ability to pay and not basis of need which is ridiculous to me Yeah that is pretty ridiculous, tbh. And I just want to add, that there are plenty of willing-to-work folks in the US, like anywhere. So just because somebody doesn't have a job, doesn't mean they're "lazy" and "sponging off the government" etc etc. They're equally entitled to have a healthy life with the right sort of healthcare access. In case it hasn't been noted yet, jobs are ALOT harder to find at the moment. Everywhere. So yeah, I see Universal healthcare being a great benefit. And if anybody wants to complain about how flawed their system is, come on over to Ireland and you'll go back home [to whatever country ur from] not so hateful of your own an example of how screwed up this country is: 58,000 x-rays were disregarded just recently. Not even looked at. X-rays that could have saved peoples lives. Cancer patients included. The best part; our health minister was out soaking up the sun in New Zealand for St.Patricks day when the scandal hit the news ....what did she do?! she stayed there to finish her holiday, which was like 2+ weeks ....instead of coming back to face up to yet ANOTHER screw up in our health system. So yeah, no health system is ever perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Most european countries pay more taxes than americans to make everybody equal economically, America doesnt do that. And i do not believe in paying high taxes in order to make everyone equal, or support everyone. I don't get that at all. The more money you earn then obviously you're going to get taxed more. That's called being fair. And Europe is far better economically than America because of this. $1 = €0.74 (euros) $1 = £0.67 (pounds) cause there are plenty of oppertunities to get healthcare and make a decent living for you self with out the goverments help. and if you get layed off for a bit then tough cause thats life, then people would be motivateed to get a job again. Have you ever by chance watched the tv show "The Wire"? I recommend it, as well as being a great tv show:p it really shows how messed up major American cities are with job losses, people living in poverty, forced into the drug trade, etc. Not everyone can make a decent living for themselves. Thanks to a recession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 also, just so you know, canada only spends about 10-15% of our budget on our healthcare so i don't understand where you're getting this whole 'omg they're going spend 50% of their money on health care, bad bad bad!!!~' idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I'm in the middle of reading this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8589399.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 On the grounds of her "pre-existing condition" - a battle with breast cancer that she survived - Ms Canfield's health insurance costs doubled to the point where they exceeded her entire income. She had no option but to drop her plan, even though she has been recently diagnosed with leukaemia. that's exactly what disgusts me is that actually how 'the greatest nation on earth' treats its citizens? because i'd be pretty damn ashamed of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catie Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 people just don't care about others and are too greedy to help anyone else out. and this is slightly off topic but im tired of this "this country is better than this one" it's all bullshit no one is better than anyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 no one has said "this country is better than this one" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catie Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 oh lord nevermind lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 well it's true all people are saying is your health care system is a joke, which it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catie Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 i know i saw, nevermind hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catie Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 lol still not what i meant andrew so just nevermind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Yeah I know, I figured I'd just delete my post not to continue things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Yeah I know, I figured I'd just delete my post not to continue things way to make me look like an idiot though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 way to make me look like an idiot though teehee I mean, sorry You being invisible and all I couldn't tell if you'd post super fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_hymn Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 people just don't care about others and are too greedy to help anyone else out. EXACTLY. It's disgusting. +rep for that post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 teehee I mean, sorry You being invisible and all I couldn't tell if you'd post super fast i usually do haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalsaC Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I can't believe the rest of Europe (america excluded, apparently) is now under the socialist flag according to one particular cascade of facts in this thread. It's going downhill now, so I'm just going to roll with it and conclude with "America, fuck yeah". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxchick93 Posted March 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 also, just so you know, canada only spends about 10-15% of our budget on our healthcare so i don't understand where you're getting this whole 'omg they're going spend 50% of their money on health care, bad bad bad!!!~' idea yea cause i said "bad bad bad"... anyways. i did a research project last year for controversal topic debate we had to do in one of my classes. and it came from a credible source. sadly i cant find where that article is cause i never lable anything properly on my computer. and i said by 2020 that will be how much at the current rate it is going. k thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 i don't believe that but hey, you're welcome to throw a tantrum about 'choice' if you wish i'll enjoy my health care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I can't believe the rest of Europe (america excluded, apparently) is now under the socialist flag according to one particular cascade of facts in this thread. It's going downhill now, so I'm just going to roll with it and conclude with "America, fuck yeah". I was going to contribute to this thread in a positive manner but I saw a lot of stupid posts. So I shall just +1 this post and also this : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 well it's true all people are saying is your health care system is a joke, which it is This yea cause i said "bad bad bad"... anyways. i did a research project last year for controversal topic debate we had to do in one of my classes. and it came from a credible source. sadly i cant find where that article is cause i never lable anything properly on my computer. and i said by 2020 that will be how much at the current rate it is going. k thanks. This post is a controversal lable, a controversal lable, a controversal lable , a controversal lable, a controversal lable Let http://www.thefreedictionary.com show you the way next time to correct spellings of such words as controversial and label:mrgreen: HAITHANNSBAI i don't believe that but hey, you're welcome to throw a tantrum about 'choice' if you wishi'll enjoy my health care +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalsaC Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 The bald eagle's actually tired of everyone just assuming it supports war. THE OREGON WILDERNESS—Frustrated by the widely held assumption that he unequivocally endorses the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, a bald eagle said Monday that his thoughts on the conflicts were far more nuanced than many Americans might expect. Speaking to reporters from his nest in the upper branches of a 175-foot ponderosa pine tree, the eagle explained that each member of his species was different and none should be taken for granted as a lockstep supporter of American military policy. Sources said the eagle then excused himself and launched into the air with a shrill "skree!" sound, returning three minutes later with a glistening fish in his talons. "And another thing: We can't forget Pakistan," the eagle said as he used his hooked beak to tear at the flesh of the writhing rainbow trout. "We have to make sure that they're not so preoccupied with India that they neglect the terrorist threats within their own borders. Remember, Pakistan has nukes." The eagle went on to tell reporters that, despite his attempts to individuate himself from the general public's perceptions of bald eagles, he could ultimately control his image only so much. He also admitted that he still had lingering resentment over the fact that someone had covertly photographed him crying on 9/11 and used the picture on a "Never Forget" dinner plate. "I really hated being exploited like that," the eagle said. "Of course I cried on 9/11. Everyone did. But I guess that's the burden of being the symbol of a nation: People are going to use you in ways you don't always like. You step out of the nest to clear your head with a few minutes of soaring, and people automatically peg you as some kind of embodiment of American freedom worth killing and dying for." "And, frankly, that's a little messed up," he added. "I'm just a bird." The Onion News Network has the full story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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