the1 Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Do you approve of them? Why? I'll give my input when I have more than 5 seconds to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I like zoos. They're fun. It's a shame the Glasgow one had to close. I have a feeling this is actually more about the morality of zoos rather than the enjoyment one derives from a trip there. I'm going to take the more fun route anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordypord Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I dont like zoo's. The animals are always sleeping, stirling safari park is ace though, with the monkeys jumping on your car n all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgi Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I don't think i've ever been to a zoo. i'm okay with zoos if the animals in them have like, grown up in captivity, but don't really like the idea of capturing wild ones and sticking them in an enclosure. i don't know, they're educational, they're fun (i assume) and you get to see lots of cute animals, i'm down. i think i'm going to get the boyf to take me to one, actually, i feel this is an important step of life that i have missed out; the zoo visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptar Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I don't think i've ever been to a zoo. i'm okay with zoos if the animals in them have like, grown up in captivity, but don't really like the idea of capturing wild ones and sticking them in an enclosure. i don't know, they're educational, they're fun (i assume) and you get to see lots of cute animals, i'm down. i feel this is an important step of life that i have missed out; the zoo visit. this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyTarget Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I'm an animal lover and have been to many zoos over the years, both as a kid myself and with my little cousins. As much as I love to see the animals that ordinarily I would never spot, I do find it a little unfair to have them locked up. I agree with Jorgi's point though, fair enough if they have been brought up in captivity. They get fed well and have a longer life expectancy in zoos, which is nice I suppose... I think I'd rather visit a safari park or whatever and see them in their natural habitats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornforthis___x Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I like zoos. they're so much fun. well, if all the animals aren't sleeping. but i like them. as for the morality of zoos, i think they are just fine. a lot of the animals have been bred in captiviy and some are rescued. so i don't really see a problem with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwik-silva Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 i'm okay with zoos if the animals in them have like, grown up in captivity, but don't really like the idea of capturing wild ones and sticking them in an enclosure. Sorry, I don't really understand that, if they're 'lucky' enough to be born into captivity that means you're less sympathetic? Even though they'll never have the chance of leading a 'full' life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgi Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Because they don't know any different. So yeah, to be honest, i am less sympathetic towards like, a polar bear brought up in london zoo (assuming they have polar bears) living in lukewarm water and constant rain, in comparison to one that was captured and taken away from the snow and yummo seals they'd become accustomed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I haven't been to a zoo since I was 7 years old . But I'm not such a big fan of zoos anyway. The animals look as if they're tortured or something. Or maybe I have this impression because these animals haven't gotten used to being stuck in a cage? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walktheline Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 i'm okay with zoos if the animals in them have like, grown up in captivity, but don't really like the idea of capturing wild ones and sticking them in an enclosure. this. i have been to zoos like million times but actually i have been to only two different zoos. but i have been to both zoos like million times! anyways, zoos were a lot of fun when i was a kid but nowadays i never go to one. anyways, i got traumatized when i was in a zoo. i was like 7 years old and i really liked rabbits (it is/was actually my fave animal haha). i was in an estonian zoo and there was this place where was this box full of bunnies and you were allowed to go there to fondle them. so i went there and there was already lots of people and there was this about 5-year-old-boy who suddenly just grabbed the bunny's ears and carried it like that and shouted something like "mom look at this!" and i couldn't say anything to that cause i didn't know any estonian and i just waved like "nooooooooo" haha. that was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yes I do approve of zoos. Zoos serve several functions that I can think of off the top of my head. One is to serve as an educational device. Another is to serve as an entertainment device. Another is to help in the preservation of species of animals that would otherwise be extinct/become on the verge of extinction if they were left to only live in the wild. Admittedly, the entertainment side of it does bring it's negatives (idiots interacting with the animals in negative ways etc), but hell, if it puts smiles on people's faces, it's not all bad. So yes, while Zoos, like pretty much everything, have their negatives, I feel the positives greatly outweigh any negatives there may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildman Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 ^ What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I was asking about the morality btw. Not the "enjoyment derived from going to a zoo", Ross, you fool!! Anyway, here's the vid that prompted me to bring up this uninspired debate: Just seems so fucking harsh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 it depends on the zoo and the animals really like some people have mentioned, animals bred in captivity if they were bread in captivity they don't know how to fend for themselves in the wild so releasing them would be a death wish they're better off at the zoo rescued animals obviously weren't doing that great in the wild, they're better off being watched and taken care of at a zoo and most zoos take very good care of their animals and like harry mentioned they're great for conservation and education i don't have any problems with legitimate zoos however, james' video helps with my next point there are people out there who decide they should open their own zoo most of them are referred to as "roadside zoos" i googled the zoo those tigers are from and this was the third result http://www.raisethehammer.org/index.asp?id=431 "Killman Zoo of Horrors A recent trip to a local roadside zoo has forever embedded a haunted memory of torment and depression as captive animals languish in substandard conditions." basically, dipshits who think they're capable of taking care of wild animals in tiny cages on their own these are what i have a problem with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 it depends on the zoo and the animals reallylike some people have mentioned, animals bred in captivity if they were bread in captivity they don't know how to fend for themselves in the wild so releasing them would be a death wish they're better off at the zoo rescued animals obviously weren't doing that great in the wild, they're better off being watched and taken care of at a zoo and most zoos take very good care of their animals and like harry mentioned they're great for conservation and education i don't have any problems with legitimate zoos however, james' video helps with my next point there are people out there who decide they should open their own zoo most of them are referred to as "roadside zoos" i googled the zoo those tigers are from and this was the third result http://www.raisethehammer.org/index.asp?id=431 "Killman Zoo of Horrors A recent trip to a local roadside zoo has forever embedded a haunted memory of torment and depression as captive animals languish in substandard conditions." basically, dipshits who think they're capable of taking care of wild animals in tiny cages on their own these are what i have a problem with Lol bread. Why people would visit these roadside zoos and keep them going is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 ...my phone tries to correct me sometimes people have been trying to shut them down for years on that zoos official webpage right in the top left hand corner it says "NOTICE TO GUESTS Killman Zoo is private property. It is not a forum for protest. The proprietors reserve the right to refuse entry to any person and, in particular, to any member or affiliate of WSPA, PETA, Zoo Check and other similar animal rights organizations. Members or affiliates of those organizations found on these premises without express written permission from The Killman Zoo will be charged with trespassing pursuant to the Trespass to Property Act of Ontario." they know people think what they're doing is disgusting and they know people want them to shut down that's why they have to go all "omg you're trespassing" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain.obvious Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Zoos are just our way of letting those lion motherfuckers know that they might be the kings of the jungle but we're the kings of the planet. Sons of bitches. Humans 1 Lions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Zoos are just our way of letting those lion motherfuckers know that they might be the kings of the jungle but we're the kings of the planet. Sons of bitches. Humans 1 Lions 0 Quoted for sheer win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Zoos are just our way of letting those lion motherfuckers know that they might be the kings of the jungle but we're the kings of the planet. Sons of bitches. Humans 1 Lions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 ...my phone tries to correct me sometimes people have been trying to shut them down for years on that zoos official webpage right in the top left hand corner it says "NOTICE TO GUESTS Killman Zoo is private property. It is not a forum for protest. The proprietors reserve the right to refuse entry to any person and, in particular, to any member or affiliate of WSPA, PETA, Zoo Check and other similar animal rights organizations. Members or affiliates of those organizations found on these premises without express written permission from The Killman Zoo will be charged with trespassing pursuant to the Trespass to Property Act of Ontario." they know people think what they're doing is disgusting and they know people want them to shut down that's why they have to go all "omg you're trespassing" Surely there should be laws against those kind of institutions? I mean, it's not like Drug Dens could stop raids for tresspassing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthesky Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Surely there should be laws against those kind of institutions? I mean, it's not like Drug Dens could stop raids for tresspassing... well right now i don't think the ownership of exotic animals is regulated in every province/state people are 'working on it' but it's not really that easy to just say "okay, you're not allowed to have your zoo anymore" there's lots out there and then you have to figure out what to do with all those animals plus i'm sure there's some loopholes with changing laws about it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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