arrrrr x matey Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 it's for california. wait...didnt they just make that legal?? you know what i think of idiots, and how i treat idiocy, infact idiocy has been ruining a decent debate all night, had enough. trust me, i'm well aware of your opinions of idiots. but like i said. watch out, dont get out of hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketcase Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 wait...didnt they just make that legal?? yep. that proposition is so stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 wait...didnt they just make that legal?? trust me, i'm well aware of your opinions of idiots. but like i said. watch out, dont get out of hand just said it as it is, rather than beat around the bush tho init Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echelonforever Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 so they made it legal and then illegal?? that's stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 wait...didnt they just make that legal?? lol yepp, and right when it did...people started banning together to make it illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrrrr x matey Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 lol yepp, and right when it did...people started banning together to make itillegal. wtf why is that such a problem?? i'm biased here though...so i guess i'll just keep my mouth shut. you can all guess my stand on this. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 i dont get the whole "omg gay marriage is wrong" thing who gives a fuck, like it has any effect on YOUR life if two gay people want to get married, gay marriage is allowed in this country, and no one gives a shit tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketcase Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 it's the dumbest thing. i really don't get why it matters so much to people if gay marriage is legal. i don't get how its affecting anyone but the people who want to get married EDIT: alex and i virtually said the same thing, so good for you alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilley_1 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ cause its a slap in the face to god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrrrr x matey Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 what i really dont get is the fact that a man and a woman can be unhappily married and divorce as many times as they want, but 2 men or 2 women cant get married once and be happy for their entire lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ cause its a slap in the face to god. well not everyone in the us believes in god believe it or not, so this has to be taken into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 wtf why is that such a problem?? i'm biased here though...so i guess i'll just keep my mouth shut. you can all guess my stand on this. lol hahaha. yeah we defnitely know your stand on this. but im straight and i think that making gay marriage illegal is wrong. plus im catholic, so my church was like handing out signs saying "yes on prop 8" and i was so mad at everyone who was taking one. lol. like i said its unconstitutional. we shouldnt deny anyone their rights. oh and another reason why people voted for it was because they were scared schools will have to teach students about gay marriage and it'll turn their kids gay. which is so ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilley_1 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ haha i know i beleive in civil unions just not gay marriage. i don't care if the government wants to join two people. i just don't want god in the equation. anyone who doesn't beleive in god shouldn't get married in my opinion as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 what i really dont get is the fact that a man and a woman can be unhappily married and divorce as many times as they want, but 2 men or 2 women cant get married once and be happy for their entire lives. hahaha my teacher has a neighbor who supported prop 8 yet he was divorced 3 times. and his argument was that it would protect the sanctity of marriage...which was kinda ironic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketcase Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ok. well correct me if i'm wrong, which i very well may be, but doesn't religion and/or faith have a lot to do with a personal relationship with god? if so, then why is it anyone's business what your relationship with him is? again, i'm not very religious, so if i'm wrong, i'm sorry. don't mean to offend anyone. edit: @lilley_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilley_1 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ that depends on what church you go to tbh. some faiths are like that and others aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ haha i know i beleive in civil unions just not gay marriage. i don't care if the government wants to join two people. i just don't want god in the equation. anyone who doesn't beleive in god shouldn't get married in my opinion as well. so you think gay marriage is acceptable in anyway apart from a christian marriage ceremony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilley_1 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ no apart from any religious ceremony (unless someones religion accepts that kind of thing since i know nothing about buddism or hinduism or anything like that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echelonforever Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ok. well correct me if i'm wrong, which i very well may be, but doesn't religion and/or faith have a lot to do with a personal relationship with god? if so, then why is it anyone's business what your relationship with him is?again, i'm not very religious, so if i'm wrong, i'm sorry. don't mean to offend anyone. edit: @lilley_1 I think it's because the bible states gay marriage is wrong. Saddam & Gamarah (sp) were destroyed for homosexuality. I care neither here nor there on the issue though, I was just trying to answer your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ no apart from any religious ceremony (unless someones religion accepts that kind of thing since i know nothing about buddism or hinduism or anything like that). well then wouldnt it be fine if the state allowed it, because then if the couples religion didnt, they would either not get married OR would have to betray their beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilley_1 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ a civil union is a recognized union between two people that is similar to marriage. i'm for gay civil unions. Marriage usually revolves around religion. Its pretty much the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 married by the state, basically. i think people should be able to make their own choices, and isnt "freedom of expression" a human right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrrrr x matey Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 seperation of church and state. politicians ever hear of it? all their arguments against it are "its against the bible," etc. then thats combining the 2. it should be allowed. and if someone's religion forbids it, they dont have to take part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilley_1 Posted November 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ^ yes i think i said that about 5 posts ago except i used government instead of state. This is like the only major issue I'm Democratic on. Its crazy. edit: for alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OK!doitnow Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 seperation of church and state.politicians ever hear of it? all their arguments against it are "its against the bible," etc. then thats combining the 2. it should be allowed. and if someone's religion forbids it, they dont have to take part. thats what ive been trying to get at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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